|By Thumpermanuk on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 09:32 am:|
Just bought one of the best bikes in the world, Y02K Falco.
After reading reams and reams on which way to go with regard to end cans/eprom/pc3, I am now so mixed up I need to just go for a ride. Only to have one thought in my mind, "I know it is a UK spec bike, but I can't hear much induction noise, could it be a restriction in the air box/logic wire needs to be cut? if so which one?
Also do UK bikes come with that metal prop for the fuel tank?
|By Scotteq on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 12:05 pm:|
Check out http://www.geocities.com/sl_mille/ for Falco info. As for derestriction - You dealer should do that for you at first service, if he hasn't done so already.
If it's induction noise you want - Check out http://www.renegade-products.com/ GREAT cans (including EPROM), and they have a kit that essentially does away with your airbox - Gains you 2~6HP from 4K~8.5K and the induction roar is positively ADDICTIVE!
Prop rod!?!??! What Prop Rod??? Who the hell is Rod, anyways!?!?! If it's that Rod Stewart guy, damn right he needs a prop to hold him up!!!
|By Andyjfalco on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 03:27 pm:|
Look under the tail, it's held in a couple of brackets on the left side. Air kit, OH YEA! As far as pipes are concerned I have a pair of Skorpion s/steels £139 each. I don't think there's much in it anyhoo, except price. Enjoy the best bike ever.
|By Racerxlilbro on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:46 pm:|
Look under the tail, it's held in a couple of brackets on the left side.
|By Benw on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:21 pm:|
On UK bikes, as far as I'm aware, Y2K bikes had them but in 01 they decided to stop fitting them and just gave them to the dealers - cheaper.
|By Exdukenut on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 12:12 am:|
A bit of 2 x 2 works for me, and that's just for the dealer...oh, sorry we were talking about the prop for the tank.
Well mine is a 2000.5 and it didn't come with said prop. However the black one's are the fastest, because they are of lighter weight.....those props weigh a ton!
|By Charlie on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 01:26 am:|
here's the standard evolution of Falco ownership
1. new, restricted - this is nice, bit lumpy at the bottom and dirty great flat spot at 5000rpm, no induction noise
2. de-restrict at 600 mile service. Blimey, what's that noise? Feels a lot friskier, still got that flat spot though
3. Cans and chip + 5/6 hp in midrange, 4/5 at top, flat spot gone, can't hear induction any more
4. Airkit, - 5 ish bhp in midrange (so + 10 bhp in midrange overall), open it up and its friggin loud (induction and exhaust) and passing rabbits, cats, and small children get sucked into your engine
5. new shock / suspension set-up - turns you into Buffy the RSV slayer
|By Thumpermanuk on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 04:03 am:|
Thanks for all your pointers, I'll be giving Renegade a ring.
I have seen a couple of Falco's about with an after market number plate bracket which cleans up the rear end loads. Does anyone know where to get them from??
|By Charlie on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 04:38 am:|
rsvr.net for the bracket
|By Fullstate on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:24 am:|
I've heard over and over again that the '02s cannot be de-restricted by simply cutting the wire. You can still de-restrict the airbox, but the chip won't change maps by cutting the wire. You have to swap out the chip. If you are going to get cans and a chip anyway, then it's a non-issue.
Can anyone confirm? I don't have an '02, but I would sure hate to see someone screw their bike up due to mis-information.
|By Webhamster on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:47 am:|
Buffy the RSV slayer
|By Crmc33 on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 06:56 am:|
According to the Harold the Almighty Chip God,
The 02 Falco can be derestricted by the wire cut but the 02 RSV cant.
|By Befbever on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 07:34 am:|
Buffy's much better looking.
I like it as well, but I'm afraid RSV owners might take offence
|By Chuzo on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 08:26 pm:|
This may add to your confusion.
Regarding my message of August 1, 2002, the disparity of opinions prompted me to ask Aprilia directly. This is what I got. Hope it helps (or cause more confusion?). At least it is "official" no?
I should add that I specified Falco 2002 in my original message to Aprilia.
Thanks for all your responses.
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:10:05 +0200
From: "Aprilia Customer Service"
We acknowledge receipt of your e-mail and thank you for it.
With regard to your request, we inform you that we forwarded it to our local Branch which will answer you directly.
Aprilia Customer Service
Subject: ECU Maps
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 07:55:31 -0400
The Falco has two maps on it's EPROM.
|By Scotteq on Saturday, September 14, 2002 - 06:19 am:|
Yes, the Falco has two maps: During derestriction you would remove the plug in the airbox, and the intake restrictors on later models. This makes enough of a difference in fuelling requirements that the motor requires a richer map, which you access by clipping a wire on the ECU. This map is rich enough to handle aftermarket slip-ons as well, though several 3rd party chips have proven to be better than the OEM.
The link I posted above has the details.
|By Thumpermanuk on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 03:46 am:|
Ok, thanks for all the info, howevever I can not really justify spending £650 on rsc or renegade cans. Has anyone fitted those Remus "grand prix" cans. thier blerb reckons you don't have to change the chip!
|By Crmc33 on Monday, September 16, 2002 - 05:30 am:|
you dont have to change the chip with a lot of race cans. The OE chip will do the job.
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