|By Ronnie on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 04:13 am:|
I would be interested to know if everyone is using stock settings for front/rear set up or have they found optimum settings that suit.
Also has anyone pulled the fork legs thru the yokes so they are level?Mine are set with 3 lines protruding thru the top yoke but I prefer a higher front end.
Just btw,I am 11 stone and 6'0" pre Guinness.
|By Prilliant on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 04:51 am:|
When I get home from work tonight (well, early tomorow morning) I'm gonna try and dig out an article from Bike Magazine a couple of years back. They let Nick Jeffries ride their long-term test Falco round the TT course and had him adjust the suspension. I remember he was happy with the front end set as standard but can't remember what he did to the back. I'm pretty sure that like most people he reccomended changing to a better shock. Just had an e-mail from KTech. Price for a fully adjustable Technoflex £430. More than £100 less than a comparable Ohlins.
Will let you know if I find the Jeffries article.
|By Mental_Trev on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 06:14 am:|
If you don't find it, tell me - I know I've got it archived at home somewhere, if it's gonna be of any help to anyone.
|By Hansie on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 02:31 pm:|
Falco settings? EASY!
Front : stock.
Rear : buy a used mille shock max the rideheight and call Trev!
|By Mental_Trev on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:26 am:|
|By Prilliant on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 02:44 am:|
Nope, sorry Ron. No sign of the mag. I'm moving house soon so it's possible its packed away with the many hundreds of other old bike magazines.
Why the hell do we men hoard so much?
|By Zhaith on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 04:07 am:|
Here's the setup article courtesy of Daz's site
Setup Page 1
Setup Page 2
|By Racerxlilbro on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 07:29 am:|
I felt a big improvement by reducing the preload in the front, reducing the compression damping...really helped mid turn.
|By Befbever on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 09:49 am:|
Racer, you're too funny!
|By Racerxlilbro on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:14 pm:|
I did. Really. No mayo. I swear!
|By Befbever on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:25 am:|
I can tell you're confused now. So my plan worked.
Seriously, what do you mean by 'helped mid turn'? And how do you feel that?
Just asking because I have the preload turned up to max and backed off the compression slightly while increasing the rebound damping. This has made the bike far less jumpy between gear changes and makes it dive a lot less when braking. Without compromising comfort.
All in all, a really really good set of front forks now.
Although I still brake the rear wheel off the ground on such a regular basis that I'm now miffed if I don't!
I don't know my settings by heart, but since I have other fork springs and thicker oil than you, I think it's safe to say that I wouldn't like the way your bike handles at all. But again, it's a personal choice.
A bit of advice: experiment away with the fork settings. These forks are sensitive enough for you to feel the difference. That is, if you're sensitive enough as well.
|By Crmc33 on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:26 am:|
I never use the forks supplied, I always eat me chips by hand.
Thats how me EPROM got buggurd
|By Racerxlilbro on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:33 am:|
I took two lines of preload out of the front. I don't remember how much compression...I think two clicks. Before I made the change, I could bounce the bike statically, standing beside it, and the rear would move freely, and the front wouldn't budge.
As far as the mid-turn improvement...When rolling through a corner, the bike is much, much easier to tighten my line in the middle of the corner. The brake dive took a little to get used to...but the bike feels so much more composed now. My little BS static test, (i.e. stand next to the bike and bounce it) has the front and back moving at far more equal rates.
|By Befbever on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:46 am:|
As I said, it's a personal thing for most of us. I had too little front compression when at Rockingham but couldn't be arsed to change anything. So I rode around while braking like Haga at Laguna Seca, as BenW might testify.
Having a sticking brake caliper piston at the time, entering corners with the bike's rear all over the place must have scared the shit out of those being overtaken. But I digress again...
As for that mid-turn, don't tell me you're still on those Metzelers. A change of tyres will do wonders if this is the case. No problems at all since I changed to the Dunlops.
The Bridgestone 012 must be my next choice. Tyres heating up fast will do nicely in the coming winter.
Crmc33, you mobile yet? And how about those tyres?
|By Crmc33 on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:54 am:|
Apparently the EPROM is waiting for moi at home, freshly repaired and ready for me to break, err I mean fit it. Hopefully there wont be anything else wrong!
The M1 Sportecs are in the UK waiting from my wheels to get there. My wheels are in Germany waiting for my engine to produce power and my engine is in the frame waiting for my EPROM to create a spark..
..and the tyre wall at Cadwell is also waiting for me! aaaaaaggh
|By Befbever on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 07:02 am:|
You sure go out of your way just to try a new tyre.
|By Crmc33 on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 07:07 am:|
Maybe I misunderstand what a tyre wall is there for?
Ive never been the same since my first meeting with the wall at three sisters (no not the porn film version) in 1995.
|By Racerxlilbro on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 07:54 am:|
Porn? Did you say porn? Where?
Bef, no, I pitched those crappy Metzelers a long time ago! I have BT-010's, and love them. Totally transformed the bike.
|By Litre1 on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 12:52 pm:|
Since we have digressed to tires, does anyone know if the BT010's wear longer than the BT012 and BT012SS under similar riding conditions?
|By Racerxlilbro on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:27 pm:|
I've heard the 010's last longer...I think. I got about 3600 out of the Metzelers, and I don't think the Bridgestones will last anwhere near that long...
|By Andyjfalco on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:22 pm:|
I've done just over 2000miles on 010's and I think there's another 2000 to go on the rear poss 3500 on the front. I will be going for 012's next as I find the rear a bit twitchy, especialy on any painted surfaces. I had 010's on a ZX6-R before I got the Falco and they seemed to go well with the bike. They don't seem so suited to a big twin, or is it just me? What's the oppinion on the sportecs?
|By Racerxlilbro on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:28 pm:|
Twitchy? Wow, mine feel totally planted. I had a "moment" over a tar patch when it was really hot out...but that's it.
I've heard good things about the sportecs except they take a little longer to come to temp.
|By Exdukenut on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:53 pm:|
I've just swapped my 010 rear out for a new one, 1800Kms and gone (800kms touring, 700kms scratcher roads, and 300kms approx on the track). The front will last almost the new rear, at which point I'm going for the 012ss's next.
2000 miles? plus another 2000 miles! You've got to get to some more curvy roads I reckon (only my humble opinion).
The 010's are spot on for the Falco heat up quick excellent side grip in pretty well all conditions (haven't had a moment yet, touch wood), and are well priced. $435.00 australian fitted front and rear.
Ride safe though.
|By Tokas on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:24 pm:|
Changing subjects are we?
If you want to discuss tyres, here's an active falco thread: Tyres
There are some interesting suspension threads active as well; RSV Suspension Setup guide in Performance Bike Mag
...and here's something about our common stand problems; The RSV sidestand sucks! Are there other options?
|By Exdukenut on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:39 pm:|
Hey Tokas, anything to be helpfull
PS wasn't me
|By Racerxlilbro on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:52 am:|
Tokas, this would be the first thread that didn't digress to French Fries, Mayonnaise, etc! LOL!
Back to the topic, ahem...Has anyone tried the standard Mille (non-R) shock on their Falco? I've got one I can buy cheap...Jorge seemed to think that was a good inexpensive solution.
Also, Bef, you mentioned you have different fork springs...how do you determine you need a different spring rate? I weigh about 150 lbs...
|By Befbever on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:11 am:|
You've read my mind, Racerx. I've been asking myself the same question lately, about the spring rate I mean. I suppose I should know this, but I don't.
But I'm sure "Suspension" Trev will...
Don't ask Jorge about shocks. He makes exhausts and is very good at it. But he rides a Pan, which doesn't exactly make him a suspension expert.
Talking about French fries: the only excuse for not dipping them in mayo is to have them with vol-au-vent. Bet you've never heard of that eh?
|By Racerxlilbro on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:03 am:|
Bef, see, it's all your fault...here we were having a nice conversation about springs, shocks, etc...and you HAD to derail to food. I'm starving...going to have some breakfast...but first:
I think, if memory serves...it's said to have been created by the famous French chef Carême, a vol-au-vent is a puff pastry shell that resembles a pot with a lid. It can be small (individual-size) or large (6 to 8 inches in diameter). The pastry is classically filled with a cream sauce-based mixture, usually of chicken, fish, meat or vegetables. The puff-pastry lid is set on top of the filling. This dish may be served as an appetizer or an entrée. The term vol-au-vent, "flying in the wind," refers to the pastry's incredible lightness...if my translation skills are any good...
|By Mental_Trev on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:22 am:|
You don't need a different spring, then (at the back, that is)!
I weigh about 150 lbs
|By Befbever on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 09:46 am:|
Anyway, Racerx, you're right. Pity it was yet another French chef, that's all.
|By Racerxlilbro on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 10:29 am:|
Bef, are you impressed?
|By Befbever on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:04 am:|
Quite frankly, yes.
You must have a great search engine I guess.
|By Racerxlilbro on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:41 am:|
I can't believe you don't believe I just KNOW that stuff!
Okay, okay... http://www.foodtv.com DAMMIT!
|By Mental_Trev on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:39 am:|
I was only thinking about all that birthday cake, filled with Mayo & topped with ketchup icing, honest...
After all, I'm sure the stress & sleepless nights must have driven you to 'comfort eating', right?
|By Befbever on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:19 am:|
There's comfort eating now? I got it wrong, I thought it was comfort drinking.
I'll get him back, Trev, don't you worry.
|By Racerxlilbro on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 06:48 am:|
Why do I get the feeling you just emailed Jorge, looking for a way to "get me back!?!?" LOL!
|By Befbever on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 07:39 am:|
Because you're not awake yet?
Get Jorge back, of course, the
|By Racerxlilbro on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 08:51 am:|
|By Russ on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 07:42 am:|
Check out this website, as it gous through setting up your bike - all bikes. It was written by the head instructor of the Australian Superbike school.
Once on the webite, go to quik links, then riding tips, then to bike setup. Heaps of useful info...
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